Defgir on the phone

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Defgir
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Defgir on the phone

Сообщение Defgir » 12 окт 2008, 22:00

Hi, I'm Defgir (Real name: Christian Michael Sawatzky).
I hope to make the world better, and my mother say, here I can help.
I don't know, what I can write more^^
ok
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Defgir
Its not the question: "Can he think?", but: "Can he feel?"

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Сообщение Nut » 12 окт 2008, 23:39

Hi, Christian! Nice to read you here!

Everybody of us here try to make our world better, so let's do it together.

You can look through Krasnoe TV clips and movies and take part in production of future clips.

Also we take part in English-speaking Jabber conference sometimes.

You can read more about Noosphere-Communist culture and Red Idea here:
http://krasnaya-zastava.ru/forum/viewto ... highlight= .

Also you may learn Russian language better :)

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Сообщение Defgir » 16 окт 2008, 18:22

I try it with that learning, but that not works >.<

And that link isn't working, nut. I've tried it
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Сообщение Игорь Жуков » 16 окт 2008, 18:36

Hi Christian!
Sorry, Nut gave a link to an internal part of the forum which is visible only by the members of NCC School. Here is the text he meant. (The translation is not edited yet, and for this reason we dis not publish it on the site.)


About us in brief

Our union of friends and like-minded people goes back to the 20th of December, 1985. In that day several schoolboys in the city of Baku united to bring up the New People of themselves who have ability to create a New Life.

One of the main starting points of our consolidation is our common world-view, that we call Red Idea, or Radical Humanistic Idea. It is based on two principles:

1. Belief in Human, in his source of Good, in his Mind. The belief in Human is a concept that each person is born for happiness and all people are born for happiness. The belief in Human is also an anguish when there is no this happiness. It is a belief in potential of each person and all human society, that may be suppressed, concealed and be unobvious. But this unobviousness is first of all a consequence of socioeconomic factor related to unjust structure of the world. It is a belief that mankind is able to become a wise master of the world.

To say figuratively, “each person bears the Sun inside – you should only allow it to shine”.

2. “Kinetic Life” – the concept that define the visual environment as actual reality, as a sum of all that was lived through, overcome, gained and happened. It is world-view as a certain integral flow that may be harmonious and inharmonious, as evolution of matter – a kinetic life that is the only thing that deserves human attention by the highest standards, that is a basis, sense and joy of human existence. Every substitution of this kinetic life with understanding of life as a certain illusion or as a transitional stage followed by a real, better existence, is alien to this world-view.
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We are neither a political organization, nor a commune that separates itself from the outer space. Our aim is to pass in a sharp of a razor between these two forms. We live in the ordinary world, we work at museums and institutes, workshops, laboratories and expeditions, we are pedestrians and passengers along with you, but we keep moral unity between ourselves. One of the main ingredients in our relations is a principle of conciliarism that is reaching a concerted point of view without compromises and without suppression of one of the standpoints, taking into account personal experience of every of us. Search of a common decision becomes possible thanks to the deep openness and critical analysis of everything we managed to know and comprehend.

From the very beginning we were inspired by the ideas of communism, noosphere, conciliarism. We aimed to grew into the people of communist world and to create communist interpersonal relations in the spirit of Ivan Efremov's ideas. (However, we do not consider ourselves as Efremov’s disciples, and he didn’t like this himself.) At a later time, as we grew up of youthful maximalism, we come to an understanding of what we call a principle of total-lot aspiration: it is impossible to be 100% people of communist future in the non-communist world – with its economics and psychology, carrying inside ourselves a heritage of millenniums of non-communist history not only at the level of culture, but also at the level of biology (genetics). But it is possible to aspire to it 100%. So, it is absolutely impossible for us when a person speaks or writes about communism being at the same time a philistine, an adherent of abysmal patriarchate or extreme individualist.

Our union is similar to Vera Pavlovna’s workrooms from the famous novel “What Is to Be Done?” by Nikolay Chernyshevsky, but it is based not on an industrial basis but on a theoretical and practical one. We discover, examine and translate a subculture of new interpersonal relations, because we realize that state of the society is defined not only by socio-economic conditions but also by personal qualities. And as far as we suppose that the World Community of the future will be described with the phrase “All for one and one for all”, we should develop the same relations in our small community.

The way of our life is when each of your pictures, ideas or articles, an archeological exploration or a talk with another person at the street, exercises at gym and lessons at library become common deed – in the contrary case there is no sense to do it. When all our children without exception can see not only thoughtful parents (that is a normal situation), but a community of the people, where a daughter or a son of my friend is my daughter or son. When the common deed busyness become apparent through our particular deeds.

We believe that the victory of communism is impossible without creation of new interpersonal relations, without disciplining of a new man with active, energetic civil stand. The building of future society is in need of strong foundation in the form of grassroot movements, unofficial unions of people who are capable to change themselves and environment in concordance with communist ideals. That’s why we define the goal of deliberate construction of communist subculture, namely we aim:
— to elaborate new radical humanistic ethics based on collective intellectual and spiritual search;
— to discover and to verify practically the qualities of a future man, those if a harmoniously developed person;
— to develop a specific communist lifestyle;
— to implement all these ideas into our daily life, to construct an “island of the Future” in the sea of the present.

We assume that the deliberate formation of communist subculture should proceed as a network of communities consisting of friends and like-minded people, and the main feature of these relations is responsibility for each other. It means that successes and misfortunes of each person in a community are experienced by anybody as common ones, that all emergent disagreements are considered to be a factor of unity (that is yearning of overcoming them) instead of delimitation, that sincerity and openness are more important than political correctness. In this way inside the community overcomes the paradigm of interpersonal separation, the attribute of present world of alienation and necessary condition for mind manipulation of people. This is to be completed with common discussion of community life problems, theoretical research, ideas exchange, desire for harmonious self-development, self-education and compiling the ideas outside the community.

For a long time importance of subculture was underestimated. It was considered as natural basis of public movements (for example, Narodnism in Russia of the 1860th or Communars movement in USSR of the 1960th – 1970th). But when favorable conditions disappeared, these movements died down, because people didn’t know how to keep and pass on their ideas out of active public activity. These spontaneous (and therefore sporadic) groups are to be replaced with intnded forming of humanistic (communist) subculture. We believe that it is indispensable condition for the humanistic (communist) reconstruction of the society.

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Now there are more than two dozens of us who live in several cities. Many people joined the NCC (Noosphere Communist Culture) builders community not long ago. Difference of our initial conditions made it vital to have a “School” that each of us undergoes. At this trainings everyone in the School has to overcome everything that interfere with common deed, that prevents from cutting his way from person of present to the person of future.

The School aimed at three basic qualities that are necessary to build NCC (and, as we are convinced, will be peculiar to the person of future in full):

— characteristic of uneasy heart – in present unsettled world it is associated with understanding that people live wrong, that they shouldn’t live as they live now, that “in each of the children — the sight of Mozart murdered”. It is a feeling of anguish to people, when it is impossible to forget about “milliards of clear-flashing eyes that look on the world and know not about evil and sorrow that fill it”, about senseless existence – it is not very important either at poverty or at satiety of consumership. This understanding must be not only a part of world-view but also should be in basis of man’s motivation that defines his real behaviour.
— characteristic of “master-person” – that is a person who thinks ndependently, understands the mechanism of his psychic setup, acts deliberate and with all responsibility.
— characteristic of “collective person” – a person who realize his sociality, who overcame individualistic stereotypes, who is capable of collective analysis and action based on deep intaking of thoughts and feelings of each other, and on responsibility for each other.

Today there aren’t many of us, so we welcome everybody who wish to join us to act together. All counteroffers will be considered carefully and thoroughly.
Эмиссар мелкобуржуазной интеллигентской субкультуры

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Сообщение Nut » 16 окт 2008, 21:22

Defgir писал(а):I try it with that learning, but that not works >.<

And that link isn't working, nut. I've tried it
Sorry, it was my blunder :(

By the way, we have German variant of this text. See Kurz über uns at the first page of the site.

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Сообщение Йэнна » 17 окт 2008, 00:03

Ой, ни фига себе написали уже! Он еще не был за компом, но завтра мы это организуем... постараемся... Очень напряженная была неделя.

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Сообщение Defgir » 17 окт 2008, 17:07

Ah, THIS text i've already read^^
But thank you
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